Updating the Puig / Clemente timeline
Most baseball fans think of Clemente as the man who died a hero but in his early 20’s he was an enigmatic player who many felt wasn’t getting the most of his tools. It wasn’t until Roberto turned 28 that he put all of his tools together and became one of the best right fielders in baseball
They are not physically alike but they are both from the islands off of Florida, right-handed hitting right fielders with arms of their generation. They both started out their careers either misunderstood or immature depending on your point of view.
Is Puig still on that pace?
Puig actually had a much better age 27 season than did Clemente. The difference being that Puig started being platooned in 2018 while Clemente was doing his 3rd straight year of over 580 plate appearances. Once again Puig had the much better offensive season at the same age but that is going change. Roberto never had an OPS+ below 138 from age 28 – 37 so I Puig wants to start putting on his HOF case, he is going to have to step up his game just as Roberto did. Roberto had also won two gold gloves in a row but it is isn’t like Puig isn’t an outstanding defensive right fielder even if he hasn’t won a gold glove yet. .
Player | Age | WAR/pos | OPS+ | BA | OBP | SLG | OPS |
Roberto Clemente | 20-27 | 24.6 | 105 | 0.300 | 0.334 | 0.434 | 0.768 |
G | PA | R | H | ||||
1061 | 4374 | 569 | 1230 | ||||
2B | 3B | HR | RBI | ||||
191 | 67 | 75 | 495 | ||||
Player | Age | WAR/pos | OPS+ | BA | OBP | SLG | OPS |
Yasiel Puig | 22-27 | 18.6 | 127 | 0.279 | 0.353 | 0.478 | 0.831 |
G | PA | R | H | ||||
712 | 2765 | 365 | 686 | ||||
2B | 3B | HR | RBI | ||||
129 | 19 | 108 | 331 |
Puig:
Year Age Tm PA R H 2B 3B HR OPS OPS+ Awards 2013 22 LAD 432 66 122 21 2 19 .925 159 MVP-15RoY-2 2014 23 LAD 640 92 165 37 9 16 .863 145 ASMVP-19 2015 24 LAD 311 30 72 12 3 11 .758 110 2016 25 LAD 368 45 88 14 2 11 .740 98 2017 26 LAD 570 72 131 24 2 28 .833 119 2018 27 LAD 444 60 108 21 1 23 .820 120 6 Yr 6 Yr 6 Yr 2765 365 686 129 19 108 .831 127 162 162 162 629 83 156 29 4 25 .831 127
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Generated 12/7/2018.
Clemente:
Year Age Tm PA R H 2B 3B HR OPS OPS+ Awards 1955 20 PIT 501 48 121 23 11 5 .666 77 1956 21 PIT 572 66 169 30 7 7 .761 106 1957 22 PIT 474 42 114 17 7 4 .637 73 1958 23 PIT 556 69 150 24 10 6 .736 95 1959 24 PIT 456 60 128 17 7 4 .718 92 1960 25 PIT 620 89 179 22 6 16 .815 121 ASASMVP-8 1961 26 PIT 614 100 201 30 10 23 .949 150 ASASMVP-4GG 1962 27 PIT 581 95 168 28 9 10 .805 114 ASASMVP-17GG
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Generated 12/7/2018.
The word is that Puig is on the trading block this winter. The Dodgers have a plethora of outfielders and might want to get their top prospect Alex Verdugo into the everyday lineup. Puig is in the last year of his contract and will be arbitration eligible after next year but the Dodgers control him through the 2020 season.
Dodgers fans seem to have a love/hate relationship with Puig, and I don’t mean the kind where you love him one minute and hate him the next. You either love his theatrical antics or you hate them. Since he joined the Dodgers in June of 2013 he has been one of the top right fielders in all of baseball. It is a tough class with some of the biggest names in baseball but Puig is right there having accumulated the exact bWAR as George Springer in about the same number of plate appearances.
Player OPS+ WAR/pos From To Age PA HR BA OBP SLG OPS J.D. Martinez 147 20.5 2013 2018 25-30 3102 178 .301 .361 .564 .926 Giancarlo Stanton 144 26.9 2013 2018 23-28 3327 212 .267 .361 .545 .906 Bryce Harper 143 22.2 2013 2018 20-25 3360 162 .281 .396 .519 .915 Mookie Betts 134 35.2 2014 2018 21-25 2923 110 .303 .370 .518 .888 George Springer 128 18.7 2014 2018 24-28 2789 121 .265 .356 .468 .824 Yasiel Puig 127 18.6 2013 2018 22-27 2765 108 .279 .353 .478 .831 Jose Bautista 123 16.5 2013 2018 32-37 3469 161 .241 .360 .463 .823 Josh Reddick 111 17.8 2013 2018 26-31 2885 84 .268 .331 .430 .761 Jason Heyward 97 21.1 2013 2018 23-28 3261 64 .263 .338 .392 .730
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Generated 12/7/2018.
Puig might be unhappy with being platooned this past summer and while platooning has advantages not many players get the reverse platoon like Puig does. Puig used to crush left hand pitching with a 1.003 OPS in 2013, .934 OPS in 2015 but over the past two years, he has hit like a pitcher against LHP. If Puig can get back to crushing LHP he will make the leap to an elite player, if not, at least he crushes the arm side that most often pitches in major league baseball.
Honestly, I think this will be the last time I do this type of story on Puig/Clemente. Clemente is about to hurtle himself into the HOF starting with his age 28 season. Puig might be getting ready to become the next Raul Mondesi who peaked at age 26 and never became the player that looked like a star at age 26 in 1997. I probably should have been doing those comparisons instead.
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- Tagged: Raul Mondesi, roberto clemente, Yasiel Puig
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